The Salem News reported that
North Shore Community Health
wants to relocate from Foster St.
to the old school administration building
at 70 Endicott Street.
The Industrial and Community Development Committee
met last Thursday to consider proposals for this site.
Only 2 were submitted, a new 2-story health care facility
and one for 4 new single family homes.
The developer for the home sites did not attend and
the Community Development department stated
that their project proposal lacked the required information.
The Health Center is a different story.
They want the property for $1 as a non-profit.
And, since they are non-profit, it would not generate taxes.
They also have a problem with too little parking on-site.
The rules require 60 spaces while there is only room for 30.
My personal feeling is that this is a
GREAT COMMUNITY SERVICE
and the City should do what it can to
help this project become a reality.
To that end... I have located a few possible
Parking Solutions for this small site.
One possible solution is to SHARE parking.
The church parking lot at 79 Endicott
is EMPTY on weekdays at just the time that
people need to park to visit the health center!
North Shore Community Health
wants to relocate from Foster St.
to the old school administration building
at 70 Endicott Street.
The Industrial and Community Development Committee
met last Thursday to consider proposals for this site.
Only 2 were submitted, a new 2-story health care facility
and one for 4 new single family homes.
The developer for the home sites did not attend and
the Community Development department stated
that their project proposal lacked the required information.
The Health Center is a different story.
They want the property for $1 as a non-profit.
And, since they are non-profit, it would not generate taxes.
They also have a problem with too little parking on-site.
The rules require 60 spaces while there is only room for 30.
My personal feeling is that this is a
GREAT COMMUNITY SERVICE
and the City should do what it can to
help this project become a reality.
To that end... I have located a few possible
Parking Solutions for this small site.
One possible solution is to SHARE parking.
The church parking lot at 79 Endicott
is EMPTY on weekdays at just the time that
people need to park to visit the health center!
The parking lots for the various condos on
Warren St. are also mostly EMPTY and could
be used by visitors to the health center!
Also, the PMLP has a few spaces for
parking along Warren St. Extension.
These spaces could be expanded onto both sides
of the street allowing for staff parking all day.
On final option might be to construct
a parking area within the boundary
of the Berry St. Garage again for staff use.
Warren St. are also mostly EMPTY and could
be used by visitors to the health center!
Also, the PMLP has a few spaces for
parking along Warren St. Extension.
These spaces could be expanded onto both sides
of the street allowing for staff parking all day.
On final option might be to construct
a parking area within the boundary
of the Berry St. Garage again for staff use.
Someone suggested we build a Children's Museum
like the one in Boston which charges
high prices for admission. So perhaps a little comparison is in order...
like the one in Boston which charges
high prices for admission. So perhaps a little comparison is in order...
17 comments:
PI
A great thing they are required to have 60 Parking spaces period. Also sell it for $1 are you kidding me? The city will lose everything they have put into it over the years and earn no tax money.
How much will the contractor pay for the property. I have no issue with developing this land because there is a building there now. My problem is giving it to a non profit.
PI,
I have to agree with my friend (?) Selling property for $1 does not make ANY sense to me, especially when it is not going to generate ANY additional tax revenues. Look at the West Peabody Office Park, that, in my opinion, has to be one of the poorest decisions in the history of Peabody. Please with things like this I just like to keep reminding people that decisions made today will effect Peabody forever.
Also...could you furnish us all with the name of said contractor? Hmmm
PI that would be helpful to have the contractor names.
aka: a friend of freds
PI I was not saying to build the thing the same size.
So PI I want to make sure I have you right. You want some of the condos in the area to give up there parking. You want these people who have no health insurance to park and walk to the office. Now if they own a car why do they not have health care? If I am not mistaken from reading some of things on here today. Health care is law a car would be a luxary correct? So we have all these law breakers coming to Peabody's new health clinic.
Come on PI give away $800,000 for this setup. No thanks.
Anon:
You are mixing things up a bit. The large numbers of uninsured are working poor. They have jobs and apartments and families and no health insurance. And they will continue to have no health insurance because even the one discounted by the state is SUPER EXPENSIVE for people who HAVE good paying jobs.
The need for 60 parking spaces is a city requirement. There will (probably) be fewer spaces needed as many people will be coming via public transit... now notice I DIDN'T SAY BUSES! We don't really have anything close to bus service in Peabody... but this actually might increase use. But what we will see is lots of GLSS and The Ride transit coming into this facility.
So, if we really need 60 spaces... they could "share" spaces with other people in the area. This does not mean it MUST be for free... it might be for a fee. Or, if it is the City land, it could simply be made available.
I can think of 2 perfect situations... the first is the church parking lot. It is mostly empty during the week day hours. The staff and doctors could park there leaving the parking at the facility for the patients.
Another plan would have the city expand the on-street parking at the entrance to the PMLP (past the houses) again for the staff and doctors.
So... everyone will jump all over the LAW BREAKERS cry... they are only fooling themselves. These people will all be given the 'dispensation' the state promised them when it said they would NOT be fined IF they could show they couldn't afford the insurance.
Now... are you telling me that these folks should sell the family car and use that money to buy health insurance instead of using the car to drive to work?
Give away $800k????
First, no one has even come close to offering the city $800k
The best offer they got, from a bidder whose consideration was withdrawn because of lack of interest, was $400k.
So now the city has a site that will need enviro cleanup and nobody wants it.
That's not the same thing as giving away $800k in my book.
OK Barney...
I agree the site will not allow a similarly sized project... not even close, maybe 1/8th the size at best...
But you were quoting the prices to show it could pay for itself... and I am showing you what people were paying for in Boston... it would be a tiny fraction of the size (and enjoyment) of the Boston Children's Museum... and thus, will generate MUCH LESS MONEY.
PI thanks for explaining the city is only giving away 400K. Well in that case I am all for it sell it for a dollar.
Are you kidding me was that really your best.
PI have you ever been to the Boston location? Before or after renovations? You could do so much more then what they have now. It is only 3 floors. How many floors can be built on that site?
I do not see the roll of the City to be to make a profit. It is to serve the residents and to make the City a better place... as good as we can make it.
So this is a little value hazmat site with an eyesore of a building on it.
Here are the options as I see it:
* Do nothing
* Knock down building and clean site - keep land open
* Knock down building and clean up site and develop it for a City use
* Knock down building and clean site - and sell it on the open market
* Knock down building and clean site - and sell it to a targeted
* Sell property AS IS with hazmat and building - let developer do whatever they wish
* Sell property AS IS with hazmat and building - give developer a lower price in exchange for City involvement in use, etc.)
So far we have done the last one and gotten one serious taker and one 'maybe' taker.
CMB:
I was there a long time ago when it was sharing the building with the computer museum.
PI turning a profit right thats what you said?
I find it hard to believe that even at 400K it will much of a profit over what they sunk into the place over the years.
Are you still saying the best use of this building is selling it for a dollar? You have been flipping and flopping on this all week.
This is not something we need as it already exists on Foster St, which I might add is a better location for those that need these type services.
It's so easy (and popular) to call someone a flip flopper... but also so easy to prove when all the posts are listed right here... IF you are correct.
Alas... You are not correct. Sorry!
I think that the center is in the best position to know what is a better location for them. They need more room AND they are developing a prototype service center here - one that could be a model for future health care centers.
I wish them well and support this endeavor.
PI,
the domaine name for the PAtriot has expired...you must enter:
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thank you
No health insurance...these folks should get a job with the City of Peabody!!!
That'll solve the problem versus giving this land away for peanuts.
Keep it as open space
PI,
Are you still around?
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